Monday, March 18, 2019

Kol Nidre, the Talmudic doctrine of deception



 

 The Talmud is very complicated, not every statement is a law, sometimes it is a commentary or the opinion of a certain Rabbi, sometimes a stipulation or refutation, however the quotes below should give you a good idea about Talmudic reasoning on certain issues.

The Talmud provides a proxy for Jews called the "Kol Nidre" (all vows) which even many Jews claim excuses them from telling the truth, not just to non-Jews but even other Jews.  Because the Jews traditionally use the Kol Nidre when they feel "persecuted", they may use this proxy when questioned about Noahide Law if they feel the revelation of these laws would make non-Jews suspicious or angry. 


I. Sanctification” and “Desecration of the Name”

Throughout the Talmud, the term “Sanctification” and “Desecration of the Name” comes up very often, especially when Jews are speaking about perhaps not being 100% honest with non-Jews.  The 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia gives us half the story on “desecration of the name”; they say the phrase means Jews are not to do anything that will bring discredit to the Jewish Religion. However we will show below that this phrase often means you can do almost anything you want to non-Jews, just so long as you do not get caught!
“Terms denoting the highest positive and negative standards of Jewish ethics, the one indicating that everything within man’s power should be done to glorify the name of God before the world, the other that everything should be avoided which may reflect discredit upon the religion of Israel and thereby desecrate the name of God” -“Sanctification” and “Desecration of the Name”, 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia

II. Lie to win legal cases against Gentiles

According to the Talmud, in Baba Kamma 113b, Jews can deceive non-Jews to gain the upper hand in legal matters. The only time there is a prohibition against lying is if there is danger the non-Jew will discover the lie (“sanctification of the name”).  
Where a suit arises between an Israelite and a heathen, if you can justify the former according to the laws of Israel, justify him and say: ‘This is our law;’ so also if you can justify him by the laws of the heathens, justify him and say to the other party: ‘This is your law;’ but if this cannot be done, we use subterfuges to circumvent him.”… “but were there no infringement of the sanctification of the Name, we could circumvent him!”  – 1962 Soncino Babylonian Talmud, Baba Kamma 113b

III. The Kol Nidre – Jewish Doctrine of Deception
“All vows, obligations, oaths, and anathemas, whether called ‘ḳonam,’ ‘ḳonas,’ or by any other name, which we may vow, or swear, or pledge, or whereby we may be bound, from this Day of Atonement until the next (whose happy coming we await), we do repent. May they be deemed absolved, forgiven, annulled, and void, and made of no effect; they shall not bind us nor have power over us. The vows shall not be reckoned vows; the obligations shall not be obligatory; nor the oaths be oaths.” – Sung by World Jewry every year on Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement) 
In regards to lying to non-Jews, Jews are given a provision to break vows or make false vows via a proxy called “Kol Nidre” found in the Talmudic book of Nedarim 23a and further elaborated in 23b and 24a. Let’s investigate these Talmudic passages so that we can easily refute the possible lies about Kol Nidre heaped upon non-Jews today.


Nedarim 23a
1962 Soncino Babylonian Talmud

1. Kol Nidre involves vows made to people, NOT GOD

Notice here that the Talmudic folio is speaking about being absolved for making vows one could not keep to other people (NOT GOD). This is very important to note because Jews often try to assert that the Kol Nidre is only meant to absolve Jews for broken promises they have made to their god and not to other people.  The example cited here is very innocuous, it simply explains that Jews are not responsible for oaths they broke for reasons not under their personal control, such as one’s wife or daughter not following instructions. However, the example does show we are talking about vows made to people and not god as many Jews try to assert. In fact, the entire book of Nedarim is about vows, Nedarim means “vows” and the Kol Nidre literally means “all vows”, not just vows to god.
Abaye’s wife had a daughter. He declared, ‘[She must marry] one of my relations,’ and she maintained, ‘one of mine’. So he said to her: ‘[All] benefit from me be forbidden to you if you disregard my wish and marry her to one of your relations.’ She went, ignored his desire, and married her to her relation. [Subsequently Abaye] went before R. Joseph [for absolution], who asked him: ‘Had you known that she would disregard your wish and marry her to her relation, would you have vowed?’ He answered, ‘No,’ and R. Joseph absolved him. But is such permitted?[6]  — Yes, and it was taught: A man once imposed a vow on his wife not to make the festival pilgrimage [to Jerusalem]; but she disregarded his wish, and did go. He went to R. Jose [for absolution], who said to him, ‘Had you known that she would disregard your wish and make the journey, would you have imposed the vow on her?’ He answered, ‘No,’ and R. Jose absolved him. – 1962 Soncino Babylonian Talmud, Nedarim 23a 
Footnote 6: The vow itself providing cause for absolution.

2. Confusing language of the Kol Nidre

The next passage is hard to make sense of, but the Rabbis will admit that this was done on purpose. How fitting that the very passage which provides a possible dispensation of truth for Jews is purposely written in a manner to “confuse”. Yet, we do get the sense that the Rabbis are talking about making a vow one has made to a friend null because it was a vow of “incitement”, and in order for the vow to be officially absolved, the Jew breaking the vow would have to remember something at the time they made the vow. What all this means is explained in the next folio of the Talmud.
MISHNAH. R. ELIEZER B. JACOB SAID: ALSO HE[7]  WHO WISHES TO SUBJECT HIS FRIEND TO A VOW TO EAT WITH HIM, SHOULD DECLARE: ‘EVERY VOW WHICH I MAY MAKE IN THE FUTURE SHALL BE NULL‘. [HIS VOWS ARE THEN INVALID,] PROVIDING THAT HE REMEMBERS THIS AT THE TIME OF THE VOW. - 1962 Soncino Babylonian Talmud, Nedarim 23a 
GEMARA. But since he says, ‘Every vow which I may make in the future shall be null,’ he will surely not listen to him[8]  and not come to [eat with] him? —  
Footnote 7: The friend.
Footnote 8: This too is an example of a vow of incitement, v. Gemara.


Nedarim 23b
1962 Soncino Babylonian Talmud

3. The Kol Nidre Explained

The Rabbis tell us the text is “defective”. In the next passage we will see that this was done deliberately rather than by accident.  But first they explain the meaning of the Kol Nidre to us.  If one imposes a vow on one’s friend (a person, not god)  to come to dinner and thus “incite” them to a vow they originally did not want to make, the friend is absolved when they  breaking this vow… just so long as they remembered the text of the Kol Nidre which was stated in the previous folio.  It would seem that this text would have been recited by the Jew at the beginning of the year for this very purpose, for nullifying his or her vows in advance. Indeed the Kol Nidre is refered to as as the “law of revocation in advance” and “a formula for the dispensation of vows” in footnote 1 to the same passage. As long as they remember the Kol Nidre at the time of making false vows, there is no obligation for a Jew to announce that their vow is false or will be unfulfilled.  Footnote 1 also clarifies that the only stipulation given is that the Jew cannot personally benefit from breaking the vow.
The text is defective, and this is what was taughtHe who desires his friend to eat with him, and after urging him, imposes a vow upon him, it is ‘a vow of incitement [and hence invalid]. And he who desires that none of his vows made during the year shall be valid, let him stand at the beginning of the year and declare, ‘Every vow which I may make in the future shall be null.[1]  [HIS VOWS ARE THEN INVALID,] PROVIDING THAT HE REMEMBERS THIS AT THE TIME OF THE VOWBut if he remembers, he has cancelled the declaration and confirmed the vow?[2]  — Abaye answered: Read: providing that it is not remembered at the time of the vow. Raba said, After all, it is as we said originally.[3]  Here the circumstances are e.g., that one stipulated at the beginning of the year, but does not know in reference to whatNow he vows. Hence, if he remembers [the stipulation] and he declares: ‘I vow in accordance with my original intention’, his vow has no reality. But if he does not declare thus, he has cancelled his stipulation and confirmed his vow. – 1962 Soncino Babylonian Talmud, Nedarim 23b   
FOOTNOTES:
Footnote 1. This may have provided a support for the custom of reciting Kol Nidre (a formula for dispensation of vows) prior to the Evening Service of the Day of Atonement (Ran.)The context makes it perfectly obvious that only vows, where the maker abjures benefit from aught. or imposes an interdict of his own property upon his neighbour, are referred to. V. J.E. s.v. Kol Nidre. Though the beginning of the year (New Year) is mentioned here, the Day of Atonement was probably chosen on account of its great solemnity. But Kol Nidre as part of the ritual is later than the Talmud, and, as seen from the following statement about R. Huna h. Hinena, the law of revocation in advance was not made public.
Footnote 2. Since, when vowing. he knows of his previous declaration, he obviously disregards it. as otherwise he would not vow at all.
Footnote 3. The received text is correct. 


4. The Kol Nidre is Purposely Deceiving


From the final passage of Nedarim 23b and footnote 4 we learn that the text of the Kol Nidre was purposely obscured so that oaths would not be taken too lightly if the Kol Nidre were taught publicly, indeed the Jewish Encyclopedia will show that even Jews have found it hard to trust one another because of the Kol Nidre.  So what does this purposefully confusing language mean?  It means the the Rabbis knew exactly what the Kol Nidre does, it absolves Jews from making false vows under incitement, but they don’t want non-Jews or even too many Jews to know this, so they purposely obscured the text.
R. Huna b. Hinena wished to lecture thereon [sc. anticipatory cancellation] at the public session. But Raba remonstrated with him: The Tanna has intentionally obscured the law,[4]  in order that vows should not be lightly treated, whilst you desire to teach it publicly 
The scholars propounded: Do the Rabbis disagree with R. Eliezer b. Jacob or not?[5]  And should you say that they differ, is the halachah like him or not?[6]  — Come and hear: For we learnt: If one says to his neighbour, - 1962 Soncino Babylonian Talmud, Nedarim 23b   
FOOTNOTES:
Footnote 4. By giving a defective text. This implies that here, at least, the lacuna is not accidental, due to faulty transmission, but deliberate; cf. p. 2, n. 3.
Footnote 5. But regard this as a binding vow.
 Footnote 6. Since the Mishnah teaches it as an individual opinion. 


Nedarim 24a
1962 Soncino Babylonian Talmud

5. As long as the vow “Honors” 
“everything should be avoided which may reflect discredit upon the religion of Israel and thereby desecrate the name of God” - “Sanctification” and “Desecration of the Name”, 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia 
Technical details about the Kol Nidre extend on into the book of Nedarim, but we will finish for now at Nedarim 24a where again we are given examples of vows made to humans and not god. Here, Jews can absolve themselves of vows without the help of a sage or rabbi as long as they broke their vow to “honour me” [aka the Jewish god, the Jewish Religion, and the Jews].  We are also reminded that incitement automatically makes a vow invalid. Jews may have to hide the darker elements of their ideology (such as the Noahide Laws) and so often feel under “incitement” to lie or break a vow of truth in regards to their beliefs.  So Jews can use Kol Nidre to prevent the “desecration of the name”, meaning they can break vows of honesty to non-Jews to keep them unaware of possible sinister intentions and devious undertakings.
‘Konam that I do not benefit from your if you do not accept for your son a kor of wheat and two barrels of wine,’ — his neighbour may annul his vow without [recourse to] a Sage, by saying‘Did you vow for any other purpose but to honour meThis [nonacceptance] is my honour.’ Thus, it is only because he asserts, ‘This is my honour’; but otherwise, it is [a binding] vow. Whose view is this? If R. Eliezer b. Jacob’s, — it is a vow of incitement?[1]  Hence it must be the Rabbis,[2]  thus proving that they disagree with R. Eliezer! — [No.] After all, it may be R. Eliezer b. Jacob’s view: he admits that this is a [real] vow, for he [who makes it] says [in effect], ‘I am not a dog, that I should benefit from you without your benefiting from me.’ – 1962 Soncino Babylonian Talmud, Nedarim 24a 
Footnote1: Which is invalid in any case
Footnote 2:  The text is thus emended by BaH. 


REFUTING LIES ABOUT THE KOL NIDRE 

IV. Refuting lies about the Kol Nidre

The Jewish Encyclopedia attempts to assert that the Kol Nidre proxy only applies to vows made to god and not vows made to other people, and that the proxy is only part of a prayer made once a year on Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement) to absolve Jews of any vows they make that year to their god that they are unable to keep. This is an obvious lie and a use of Kol Nidre itself since according to footnote 1 in Nedarim 23b of the Talmud, the Kol Nidre is a legal proxy that exists outside of Yom Kippur and was not incorporated into the ritual of Yom Kippur until later, partially because the proxy was not made public. Kol Nidre is even referred to as “the law of revocation in advance” and “a formula for dispensation of vows”.
This may have provided a support for the custom of reciting Kol Nidre (a formula for dispensation of vows) prior to the Evening Service of the Day of Atonement (Ran.)The context makes it perfectly obvious that only vows, where the maker abjures benefit from aught. or imposes an interdict of his own property upon his neighbour, are referred to. V. J.E. s.v. Kol Nidre. Though the beginning of the year (New Year) is mentioned here, the Day of Atonement was probably chosen on account of its great solemnity. But Kol Nidre as part of the ritual is later than the Talmud, and, as seen from the following statement about R. Huna h. Hinena, the law of revocation in advance was not made public– 1962 Soncino Babylonian Talmud, Nedarim 23b, Footnote 1
As we showed in the Talmud, all the stipulations of the Kol Nidre proxy deal with breaking vows one makes to other people, and not to god.  In addition, according to the proxy of the Kol Nidre, the Jew must only announce their vow as false if they do not remember the proxy of the Kol Nidre, which they had ritually stated at the beginning of the year, at the time they make the false vow. If the Jew remembers the Kol Nidre at the time they make the false vow then the Jew has no obligation to proclaim that their vow is false. Who would willingly try to deceive their omniscient god like this? Again, the most relevant application of Kol Nidre for Jews is to make false vows of truth so that they do not have to reveal the unsavory and outright dangerous elements of their ideology such as Noahide Law.


KOL NIDRE = All Vows
1906 Jewish Encyclopedia


1. Kol Nidre is not just a prayer


Under the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia article entry on the Kol Nidre, the Jews try to make the Kol Nidre seem like a simple “prayer” said on the “Day of Atonement”, also known as Yom Kippur.  However, we are told this simple “prayer” has had an eventful history and has even had an influence over the legal status of Jews in non-Jewish nations. Indeed, in the past, non-Jews have become aware of the Kol Nidre and have made legislation to protect themselves against it: “Jew Oaths”.  Yes, indeed we are told that “Christians” have employed the Kol Nidre to assert that Jews cannot be trusted.
Prayer recited in the synagogue at the beginning of the evening service on the Day of Atonement; the name is taken from the opening words. The “Kol Nidre” has had a very eventful history, both in itself and in its influence on the legal status of the Jews. Introduced into the liturgy despite the opposition of rabbinic authorities, repeatedly attacked in the course of time by many halakists, and in the nineteenth century expunged from the prayer-book by many communities of western Europe, it has often been employed by Christians to support their assertion that the oath of a Jew can not be trusted. – KOL NIDRE, 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia

2. Kol Nidre is recited every year at Yom Kippur

Before continuing, take a moment to read the Kol Nidre as spoken by Jews once a year on Yom Kippur and see how detailed and literal a statement it is. The proxy states that “all vows” are absolved and annulled in advance; all vows, not just vows made to god:
“All vows, obligations, oaths, and anathemas, whether called ‘ḳonam,’ ‘ḳonas,’ or by any other name, which we may vow, or swear, or pledge, or whereby we may be bound, from this Day of Atonement until the next (whose happy coming we await), we do repent. May they be deemed absolved, forgiven, annulled, and void, and made of no effect; they shall not bind us nor have power over us. The vows shall not be reckoned vows; the obligations shall not be obligatory; nor the oaths be oaths.” – KOL NIDRE, 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia 

3. Kol Nidre applies to humans, NOT GOD

The Jewish Encyclopedia attempts to state that the Kol Nidre is only to avoid heavenly judgment, meaning that the Kol Nidre only refers to vows made to god and not people or other institutions; we have already shown from the Talmud this is not true.
The teachers of the synagogues, however, have never failed to point out to their cobelievers that the dispensation from vows in the “Kol Nidre” refers only to those which an individual voluntarily assumes for himself alone (see RoSH to Ned. 23b) and in which no other persons or their interests are involvedIn other words, the formula is restricted to those vows which concern only the relation of man to his conscience or to his Heavenly Judge (see especially Tos. to Ned. 23b). In the opinion of Jewish teachers, therefore, the object of the “Kol Nidre” in declaring oaths null and void is to give protection from divine punishment in case of violation of the vow– KOL NIDRE, 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia 
At other times and places during the nineteenth century emphasis was frequently laid upon the fact that “in the ‘Kol Nidre’ only those vows and obligations are implied which are voluntarily assumed, and which are, so to speak, taken before God, thus being exclusively religious in content; but that those obligations are in no wise included which refer to other persons or to non-religious relations” (“Allg. Zeit. des Jud.” 1885, p. 396). – KOL NIDRE, Jewish Encyclopedia 
The Jewish Encyclopedia again attempts to state that the Kol Nidre does not apply to vows made to any person, court of justice or community.  However, in the same paragraph, they admit that many early Jewish authorities wanted the Kol Nidre to be used when it was “extorted from the congregation… in times of persecution”, and so you can see that the Jews can use Kol Nidre if they feel “persecuted”. Wouldn't revelations about the Noahide Laws lead non-Jews to become suspicious or angry... could Jews say this was "persecution"?
No vow, promise, or oath, however, which concerns another person, a court of justice, or a community is implied in the “Kol Nidre.” It must be remembered, moreover, that five geonim were against while only one was in favor of reciting the prayer (Zunz, “G. V.” p. 390, note a), and furthermore that even so early an authority as Saadia wished to restrict it to those vows which were extorted from the congregation in the synagogue in times of persecution (“Kol Bo,” l.c.); and he declared explicitly that the “Kol Nidre” gave no absolution from oaths which an individual had taken during the year. – KOL NIDRE, 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia 

4. Even some Jews disapprove of the Kol Nidre

It would seem that for some time the Kol Nidre has even been disapproved of by many Jews.  Karaites, a very small sect of Jews who do not follow Talmud but Torah only, are known to have protested the Kol Nidre’s power of dispensation. It was even disqualified by many scholars of the Babylonian academies.  The moral effect of the Kol Nidre was so negative that many Jewish officials themselves felt that it made other Jews who took its advice to be untrustworthy.
The readiness with which vows were made and the facility with which they were annulled by the scribes gave the Karaites an opportunity to attack the Rabbinites, and forced the Geonim to minimize the power of dispensation. Yehudai Gaon of Sura (760), author of the “Halakot Pesuḳot,” went so far as to forbid any study whatsoever of Nedarim, the Talmudic treatise on oaths (Alfasi on Nedarim, end; L. Löw, l.c. p. 363).Thus the “Kol Nidre” was discredited in both of the Babylonian academies and was not accepted by them… For the same reason Jeroham ben Meshullam, who lived in Provence about the middle of the fourteenth century, inveighed against those fools who, trusting to the “Kol Nidre,” made vows recklessly, and he declared them incapable of giving testimony (“Toledot Adam we-Ḥawwah,” ed. 1808, section 14, part iii., p. 88; see Zunz, “G. V.” p. 390). The Karaite Judah Hadassi, who wrote the “Eshkol ha-Kofer” at Constantinople in 1148 (see Nos. 139,140 of that work), likewise protested against the “Kol Nidre.”… Judah ben Barzillai, a Spanish author of the twelfth century, in his halakic work “Sefer ha-’Ittim,” declares that the custom of reciting the “Kol Nidre” was unjustifiable and misleading, since many ignorant persons believe that all their vows and oaths are annulled through this formula, and consequently they take such obligations on themselves carelessly (“Orḥot Ḥayyim,” p. 106a).  – KOL NIDRE, 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia  


5. The Kol Nidre is recited among non-Jews


Notice, however, even though Jews themselves were upset with having to deal the with the Kol Nidre, it is customary to recite the formula in the various lands of the Jewish dispersion, meaning it is customary to practice Kol Nidre in the presence of non-Jews.
 According to Naṭronai, however, it was customary to recite the formula in various lands of the Jewish dispersion, and it is clear likewise from Amram’s “Siddur” (ii. 37a) that the usage was wide-spread as early as his time in Spain… From Germany (Ṭur Oraḥ Ḥayyim, § 619) this custom spread to southern France, Spain, Greece, and probably to northern France, and was in time generally adopted (Shulḥan ‘Aruk, Yoreh De’ah, 619, 1; Zunz, l.c. p. 96). – KOL NIDRE, 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia  


6. Kol Nidre and “Jew Oaths”


The Kol Nidre has inspired many legislatures and judges throughout history to consider it necessary to have special oaths just for Jews (“Jew Oaths”).  The Jewish Encyclopedia would have us believe that all of the non-Jews and Jews throughout history who have taken issue with the Kol Nidre are simply misreading it and are projecting their own unscrupulous intention onto the text. The Kol Nidre text of the Talmud was purposely written to confuse and hide its truth, what does that tell you? We even see apostates from the Jewish Religion believe the cynical nature of the Kol Nidre is true enough to use it in their attacks against their former religion.
The “Kol Nidre” has been one of the means widely used by Jewish apostates and by enemies of the Jews to cast suspicion on the trustworthiness of an oath taken by a Jew (Wagenseil, “Tela Ignea, Disputatio R. Jechielis,” p. 23; Eisenmenger, “Entdecktes Judenthum,” vol. ii., ch. ix., pp. 489 et seq., Königsberg, 1711; Bodenschatz, “Kirchliche Verfassung der Heutigen Juden,” part ii., ch. v., § 10, Frankfort and Leipsic, 1748; Rohling, “Der Talmudjude,” pp. 80et seq., Münster, 1877); so that many legislators considered it necessary to have a special form of oath administered to Jews (“Jew’s oath”), and many judges refused to allow them to take a supplementary oath, basing their objections chiefly on this prayer (Zunz, “G. S.” ii. 244; comp. pp. 246, 251). As early as 1240 Jehiel of Paris was obliged to defend the “Kol Nidre” against these charges. It can not be denied that, according to the usual wording of the formula, an unscrupulous man might think that it offers a means of escape from the obligations and promises which he had assumed and made in regard to others– KOL NIDRE, 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia  


7. Why still Kol Nidre today?


Finally, at the 1844 rabbinical conference held in Brunswick Germany, it was unanimously declared that the Kol Nidre was not essential and that members of the conference should try their best to abolish the proxy.  Yet, there were of course many orthodox Rabbis who opposed this measure and the Kol Nidre didn’t die.  Even though it has been opposed by both non-Jews and Jews and is obviously an suspect script, the Kol Nidre is still alive and well today, being sung every year on Yom Kippur in the many synagogues of world Jewry.  The Explanation given by Jewry is that despite its even Jewish proclaimed moral reprehensibility, the melody which goes along with the Kol Nidre is just so appealing…
Yielding to the numerous accusations and complaints brought against the “Kol Nidre” in the course of centuries, the rabbinical conference held at Brunswick in 1844 decided unanimously that the formula was not essential, and that the members of the convention should exert their influence toward securing its speedy abolition(“Protocolle der Ersten Rabbiner Versammlung,” p. 41, Brunswick, 1844)… Naturally there were many Orthodox opponents of this innovation, among whom M. Lehmann, editor of the “Israelit,” was especially prominent (see ib. 1863, Nos. 25, 38). – KOL NIDRE, 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia  
The principal factor which preserved the great religious authority of the “Kol Nidre” well into the nineteenth century, and which continually raises up new defenders for it, is doubtless its plaintive and appealing melody, which made a deep impression even on Lenau (see his remarks in “Der Israelit,” 1864, No. 40, pp. 538 et seq.and which was the favorite melody of Moltke, who had the violinist Joachim play it for him– KOL NIDRE, 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia  


Slavery of non-Jews in the Talmud






 The Talmud is very complicated, not every statement is a law, sometimes it is a commentary or the opinion of a certain Rabbi, sometimes a stipulation or refutation, however the quotes below should give you a good idea about Talmudic reasoning on certain issues.

According to the Talmud non-Jews (gentiles) should not be freed from slavery except for payment, children born of non-Jewish may be sold into permanent slavery, however this should never be done to the children of Jews.


GENTILES SHOULD NO BE FREE, EXCEPT FOR PAYMENT

“Rabbah said: For these three offences men become impoverished: for emancipating their [heathen] slaves, for inspecting their property on Sabbath, and for taking their main Sabbath meal at the hour when the discourse is given in_the Beth Hamidrash. For so R. Hiyya b. Abba related in the name of R. Johanan, that there were two families in Jerusalem, one of which used to take its main meal on Sabbath [at the hour of the discourse] and the other on the eve of Sabbath_[4]  and both of them became extinct.”_“The question was asked: [Does a slave who is thus liberated] require a deed of emancipation or not? — Come and hear: R. Hiyya b. Abin said in the name of Rab; Both the one and the other become free men, and they require deeds of emancipation. Rabbah said: I raise an objection against my own statement[8] from the following: ‘If a man sanctifies his property and some slaves are included in it, the treasurers [of the Sanctuary] are not allowed to emancipate them_[9]  but they must sell them to others,_[10]  and these others are allowed to emancipate them. Rabbi says: My view is that the slave can pay his own purchase price[11] and liberate hiniself_[12] because the treasurer in that case as it were sells him to himself’? — Do you seek to confute Rab from the Mishnah? Rab is himself [considered] a Tanna and is allowed to differ.” - 1962  Soncino Babylonian Talmud, Gittin 38b

FOOTNOTES:
4. [Lit., 'money.' Lev. XXV, 47. from which we learn that a heathen may acquire an
Israelite as slave, speaks expressly of 'purchase money', v. verse 51.]
5. This word seems here to have the double meaning of ‘presumptive title’ (supposing that the original owner has given up hopes of recovering him), and
‘act of possession,’ e.g., making the slave serve him. The question thus remains.
— Was the brigand the rightful owner?
6. Israel were forbidden to occupy the territory of Ammon and Moab (Deut. I , 9,
19). Sihon had taken some of the land of Moab (Num. XXI, 26), and this the Israelites were permitted to conquer from him and occupy. (Cf. Jud. XI, 15 ff.). This shows that a heathen can acquire ownership by act of possession.
7. Num. XXI, 1. The lesson is derived from the fact that the Israelites taken by the king of Arad are called ‘captives’.
8. V. B.B. 173a.
9.  V. infra 74a and notes.
10. V. Sanh. 31a.
11. That in any case the slave returns to slavery.
12. That even if we ransomed her for freedom, she must again become a slave.


CHILDREN BORN OF GENTILES MAY BE PURCHASED  AS PERMANENT SLAVES, 
BUT THIS SHOULD NOT BE DONE TO JEWS

“‘Of them shall ye take your bondmen for ever’, in order to indicate that if a man belonging to any other Gentile people has intercourse with a Canaanite woman [4] and begets a son by her, it is permissible to purchase him as a slave. For it has been taught: Whence is it that if a man belonging to any other Gentile people has intercourse with a Canaanite woman and begets a son by her, it is permissible to purchase him as a slave? There is a text to declare, Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy_[5]  It is possible to think that also if a Canaanite had intercourse with a woman belonging to any other Gentile people and he begets a son by her, it is permissible to purchase him as a slave; therefore there is a text to declare, Which they have begotten in your land[6]  — from those born in your land[7]  and not from those who dwell in your land_[8] And [from where does] R. Akiba [learn this rule]? — He derives it from, ‘Of them shall ye buy’; what then is the purpose of, ‘Of them ye shall take your bondmen for ever’? [It indicates that] it is_obligatory. And [how does] R. Ishmael [explain the addition of these words]? _‘Of them’ [he may purchase] but not of your brethren. [From where does] R. Akiba [derive this rule]? — It is deduced from the mention of ‘your brethren’ at the end of the verse: But over your brethren the children of Israel ye shall not rule, one over another, with rigour.[9] – 1962  Soncino Babylonian Talmud, Sotah 3b

FOOTNOTES:
4: The woman belonged to the seven nations which had to be exterminated.
5: Lev. XXV, 45.
6: Ibid. I.e., the original natives of Canaan.
7: [Whose father belongs to another land.]
8: [I.e., the original natives of Canaan]. It is to be noted that descent is traced through the father, whereas in the case of a Jew descent is traced through the mother.
9: Lev. XXV, 46.

Sunday, March 17, 2019

Theft from non-Jews in the Talmud



The Talmud is very complicated, not every statement is a law, sometimes it is a commentary or the opinion of a certain Rabbi, sometimes a stipulation or refutation, however the quotes below should give you a good idea about Talmudic reasoning on certain issues.

One of the Noahide Laws prohibits theft, however some commentators in the Jewish Talmud make the argument that Jews can lie to, steal from, and cheat non-Jews; the only rule is that the Jew must not get caught (“profane the name” of Jews and/or their god). According to the Talmud Jews must return the lost items of other Jews, but they may keep the lost items they find of “heathens”, unless they think the non-Jew will find out about the theft. In a commercial transaction, if a non-Jew makes a mistake in a Jew’s favor (for example, if the non-Jew undercharges the Jew), the money does not have to be returned. Some commentators say that a non-Jew may be actively and intentionally misled and deceived during a commercial transaction by disguising the low quality of goods.  There are even provisions for directly stealing from non-Jews, the prejudicial thinking behind this is that a Jew would give the objects for free while the non-Jew would ask for payment, so it is okay to steal it from the non-Jew.


JEWS MAY KEEP OBJECTS LOST BY GENTILES, BUT NOT THOSE OF JEWS UNLESS THEY THINK THEY WILL GET CAUGHT (PROFANE THE “NAME” OF GOD)

His lost article is permissible, for R. Hama b. Guria said that Rab stated: Whence can we learn that the lost article of a heathen is permissible? Because it says: And with all lost thing of thy brother’s: it is to your brother that you make restorationbut you need not make restoration to a heathen. But why not say that this applies only where the lost article has not yet come into the possession of the finder, in which case he is under no obligation to look round for it, whereas if it had already entered his possession, why not say that he should return it. — Said Rabina: And thou hast found it surely implies that the lost article has already come into his possession. It was taught: R. phinehas b. Yair said that where there was a danger of causing a profanation of the Name, even the retaining of a lost article of a heathen is a crime. – 1962 Soncino Babylonian Talmud, Baba Kamma 113b 

IT IS PERMISSIBLE TO PROFIT FROM THE MISTAKE OF A GENTILE 

Samuel said: It is permissible, however, to benefit by his mistake as in the case when Samuel once bought of a heathen a golden bowl under the assumption of it being of copper for four zuz, and also left him minus one zuz. R. Kahana once bought of a heathen a hundred and twenty barrels which were supposed to be a hundred while he similarly left him minus one zuz and said to him: ‘See that I am relying upon you.’ - 1962 Soncino Babylonian Talmud, Baba Kamma 113b 

IT IS PERMISSIBLE TO HIDE THE LOW QUALITY OF PRODUCTS FROM GENTILES 

Rabina together with a heathen bought a palm-tree to chop up [and divide]. He thereupon said to his attendant: Quick, bring to me the parts near to the roots, for the heathen is interested only in the number [but not in the quality]. - 1962 Soncino Babylonian Talmud, Baba Kamma 113b 

DIRECT THEFT FROM GENTILES (BECAUSE A JEW WOULD GIVE IT FOR FREE) 

R. Ashi was once walking on the road when he noticed branches of vines outside a vineyard upon which ripe clusters of grapes were hanging. He said to his attendant: ‘Go and see, if they belong to a heathen bring them to me,27  but if to an Israelite do not bring them to me.’ The heathen happened to be then sitting in the vineyard and thus overheard this conversation, so he said to him: ‘If of a heathen would they be permitted?’ — He replied: ‘A heathen is usually prepared to [dispose of his grapes and] accept payment, whereas an Israelite is generally not prepared to [do so and] accept payment. - 1962 Soncino Babylonian Talmud, Baba Kamma 113b

Footnote 
27: Especially since the branches were outside the vineyard and thus probably overhanging a public road; cf. B.B. II, 14.



Permissible murder in the Talmud



The Talmud is very complicated, not every statement is a law, sometimes it is a commentary or the opinion of a certain Rabbi, sometimes a stipulation or refutation, however the quotes below should give you a good idea about Talmudic reasoning on certain issues.

Even though one of the Noahide Laws prohibits murder, according to some interpretations of the Babylonian Talmud, Jew may murder anyone, even other Jews, just so long as the murder is committed indirectly (there is no agent causation in Jewish law), thus the Talmud provides provisions for killing others (even other Jews) via starvation, exposure, suffocation, and more.


NO PENALTY FOR CAUSING INDIRECT DEATH

“Thus R. Zera maintains that no penalty is incurred for indirectly causing one’s death” –1962 Soncino Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 77a, Footnote 11

MURDER BY STARVATION  

Raba said: If one bound his neighbour and he died of starvation, he is not liable to execution. – 1962 Soncino Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 77a

MURDER BY EXPOSURE TO THE ELEMENTS  

Raba also said: If he bound him in the sun, and he died, or in a place of intense cold and he died, he is liable; but if the sun was yet to appear, or the cold to make itself felt, he is not.[4] -  1962 Soncino Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 77a 

FOOTNOTE 4: I.e., he is liable only if the place was already exposed to heat or cold. But if it was merely destined to become hot, the sun not yet having risen, he is not liable. In the first case, he is regarded as a direct murderer, in the second, as an indirect cause. That is the general reason for the exemptions taught in this passage. 

MURDER BY EXPOSURE TO WILD ANIMALS/INSECTS 

Raba also said: If he bound him before a lion, he is not liable:[5]   before mosquitoes, [who stung him to death] he is. R. Ashi said: Even before mosquitoes, he is not liable, because these go and others come.[6] -  1962 Soncino Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 77a 

FOOTNOTE 5:  Because he could not have saved himself in any case. [Raba probably refers to a prisoner thrown into an arena to be torn by lions.]

FOOTNOTE 6: I.e., the mosquitoes before which the prisoner was bound do not kill him entirely, as there is a continuous coming and going. Hence it is similar to binding one in a place where the sun will appear, but has not yet done so.

MURDER BY SUFFOCATION IN A CLOSED CONTAINER 

 For R. Zera said: If one led his neighbour in to an alabaster chamber[9]   and lit a candle therein, so that he died [of the fumes]. he is liable. Now, the reason is only that he lit a candle that he is liable;[10]  but had he not lit a candle [and the prisoner died of the natural heat and lack of air], he would be exempt![11]  — I will tell you: In that case, without a candle, the heat would not have commenced [its effects] - 1962 Soncino Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 77 

FOOTNOTE 9: Which was then hermetically sealed, so that no fumes could escape.

FOOTNOTE 10: This being considered active murder under the circumstances.

FOOTNOTE 11:  Thus R. Zera maintains that no penalty is incurred for indirectly causing one’s death. 

MURDER BY CASTING INTO A PIT AND REMOVING THE LADDER  

Raba said: If one thrust his neighbour into a pit, in which there was a ladder [so that he could have climbed out], and then another came and removed it, or even if himself hastened to remove it, he is not liable [for the victim's death], because when he threw him in he could have climbed out – 1962 Soncino Babylonian Talmud, Yebamoth 77b 

 COLLECTIVE MURDER BY A GROUP  - (ONLY THE ONE WHO DEALS 
THE FINAL BLOW MAYBE LIABLE DEPENDING ON OPINION 

Our Rabbis taught: If ten men smote a man with ten staves, whether simultaneously or successively, and he died, they are exempt. R. Judah b. Bathyra said: If successively, the last is liable, because he struck the actual death blow.[3]  R. Johanan said: Both derive [their rulings] from the same verse, And he that killeth kol nefesh[4]  [lit., 'all life'] of man shall surely be put to death.[5] The Rabbis maintain that kol nefesh implies the whole life;[6]   but R. Judah b. Bathyra holds that kol nefesh implies whatever there is of life.[7]  -  1962 Soncino Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 78a 

FOOTNOTE 3:  Lit., ‘brought his death near’; v. B.K. 26b. 

Baba Kamma 26b as mention is the footnote above is inserted here for your reference 

§  Babba Kama 26b – 27a: Rabbah again said: In the case of one throwing a child from the top of the roof and somebody else meanwhile appearing and catching it on the edge of his sword, there is a difference of opinion between R. Judah b. Bathyra and the Rabbis.[33]  For it was taught: In the case of ten persons beating one [to death] with ten sticks, whether simultaneously or consecutively, none of them is guilty of murder: R. Judah b. Bathyra, however says: If consecutively the last is liable, for he was the immediate cause of the death. In the case where an ox meanwhile appeared and caught the [falling] child on its horns there is a difference of opinion between R. Ishmael the son of R. Johanan b. Beroka and the Rabbis.[2]  For it was taught: Then he shall give for the redemption of his life [denotes] the value of the [life of] the killed person. R. Ishmael the son of R. Johanan b. Beroka interprets it to refer to the value of the [life of] the defendant [2] – 1962 Soncino Baba Kamma 26b – 27a 

FOOTNOTE 33: According to R. Judah, the latter who caught it on the edge of his sword will be guilty of murder, but according to the Rabbis, no one is guilty of it.FOOTNOTE 2: According to R. Ishmael compensation for manslaughter will have to be made by the owner of the ox, but according to the Rabbis there will be no payment, as the child at the time of the fatal fall was devoid of any value.



FOOTNOTE 4: [H].FOOTNOTE 5: Lev. XXIV, 17.

FOOTNOTE 6:  Hence, if ten men assailed him successively, he was already nearly dead when the last smote him: therefore the last too is exempt.

FOOTNOTE 7:  I.e., however little life the man has, even if he is nearly dead, the man who actually kills him is liable.
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Commands to kill pagans in the Talmud







The Talmud is very complicated, not every statement is a law, sometimes it is a commentary or the opinion of a certain Rabbi, sometimes a stipulation or refutation, however the quotes below should give you a good idea about Talmudic reasoning on certain issues.

According to the Talmud, one is not supposed to learn paganism unless they are studying it to refute it. Wizards, necromancers, people with familiar spirits, those who learn the ways of magicians and sorceresses are to be killed. 


Stone Wiz ards To Death

“Their blood shall be upon them is stated here, and also in the case of one who has a familiar spirit or is a wizard:  just as there the reference is to stoning, so it is here too. “-Babylonian Talmud: Tractate Sanhedrin, 54a


Stone Wizards / Necromancers

“You say, by stoning; but perhaps it means by one of the other deaths decreed in the Torah? — The Writ saith here, their blood shall be upon them; and in the case of a necromancer or a wizard, the Writ saith likewise, their blood shall be upon them[4]  just as there, stoning is meant, so here too.”  - Babylonian Talmud: Tractate Sanhedrin, 54a

FOOTNOTE 4:  Lev. XX, 27. A man also or a woman that hath a familiar spirit (i.e., a necromancer), or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones, their blood shall be upon them.


Stone People With Familiar Spirits To Death

“Here it is written, his blood shall be upon  him; and elsewhere it is written, [A man  also or a woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death; they shall stone them with stones:their blood shall be upon them: [17]  just as there stoning is meant, so here too.” - Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 66a

FOOTNOTE 17:  Lev. XX, 27. - “‘A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.’”


Jews Who Learn From Magicians Should Be Killed Unless They Are Learning To “Understand And Instruct”

“As to magianism, Rab and Samuel [differ thereon]: one maintains that it is sorcery; the other, blasphemy. It may be proved that it is Rab who maintains that it is blasphemy. For R. Zutra b. Tobiah said in Rab’s name: He who learns a single thing from a magian is worthy of death. Now should you think that it is a sorcerer, surely it is written, thou shalt not learn to do [after the abomination of those nations],[6]  [implying], but you may learn in order to understand and instruct! This proves it.” –  Babylonian Talmud, Shabbath, 75a

FOOTNOTE 6: Deut. XVI I, 9. - When you enter the land the Lord your God is giving you, do not learn to imitate the detestable ways of the nations there.


Stone Sorceresses To Death

“From what has been taught: Ben ‘Azzai said, It was stated, Thou shall not suffer a sorceress to live,  and it is also stated, Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death; one subject was placed near the other to indicate that as the man who lies with a beast is to suffer the death penalty of stoning so also is a sorceress to suffer the death penalty of stoning. Said R. Judah to him: Shall we, because one subject was placed in close proximity to the other, lead out a person to be stoned? In truth  [the penalty of the sorceress is derived from the following]: The necromancer and the charmer were included among the sorcerers; why then were they mentioned separately?  In order that the others may be compared to them, and to tell you that as the necromancer and the charmer are subject to the death penalty of stoning, so is a sorceress also subject to the penalty of stoning.” - Babylonian Talmud, Yebamoth, 4a


Stone Sorceresses To Death

 “As it has been taught; Ben ‘Azzai says: Thou shalt not suffer a sorceress to live. and it says [immediately afterwards], Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death. The two statements were juxtaposed to tell you that just as one that lieth with a beast is put to death by stoning, so a sorceress also is put to death by stoning. Said R. Judah to him: Because the two statements are juxtaposed, are we to take this one out to be stoned? Rather [we learn it as follows]: They that divine by a ghost or a familiar spirit come under the head of sorceress. Why then were they mentioned separately?[19]  To serve as a basis for comparison: just as they that divine by a ghost or familiar spirit are to be stoned, so a sorceress is to be stoned.” - Babylonian Talmud, Berakoth 21b

FOOTNOTE 17: In Lev. XX, 27. ‘A man also … that divineth by a ghost or afamiliar spirit shall surely be put to death; they shall stone them with stones’. 



Homophobia in the Talmud




The Talmud is very complicated, not every statement is a law, sometimes it is a commentary or the opinion of a certain Rabbi, sometimes a stipulation or refutation, however the quotes below should give you a good idea about Talmudic reasoning on certain issues.

The Talmud likens male homosexuality to bestiality and claims that Jews in general are suspected of neither, the punishment of homosexuality is stoning to death.   As for Lesbianism, the Talmud states that women who have sex with other women are not fit to marry a priest and some Rabbis do not allow their daughters to sleep together to avoid such a situation.  There is little doubt  that today’s calls to have homosexuals killed or the all to often likening of homosexuality to bestiality  comes from the influence of Jewish scripture.



Homosexuality And Bestiality Linked… Jews Are Not Suspected Of 
Such Behavior

“Mishna: Rabbi Judah said: An unmarried man must not tend cattle, nor may two unmarried men sleep together under the same cover. But the Sages permitted it. Gemara: What is the reason? Said they to R. Judah, Israel are not suspected of either pederasty or bestiality.” – Babylonian Talmud, Kuddushin


Homosexual Men & Bestiality Mentioned In The Same Mishna, Homosexuals Should Be Stoned To Death, So  Should Raped Animals 

“MISHNAH. HE WHO COMMITS SODOMY WITH A MALE OR A BEAST, AND A WOMAN THAT COMMITS BESTIALITY ARE STONED. IF THE MAN HAS SINNED, WHEREIN HAS THE ANIMAL OFFENDED? BUT BECAUSE MAN WAS ENTICED TO SIN THEREBY,28  SCRIPTURE ORDERED THAT IT SHOULD BE STONED. ANOTHER REASON  IS THAT THE ANIMAL SHOULD NOT PASS THROUGH THE STREETS, WHILST PEOPLE SAY, THIS IS THE ANIMAL ON ACCOUNT OF WHICH SO AND SO WAS STONED.” – 1962 Soncino Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 54a


Lesbianism Are Lewd And Disqualified From Marrying A Priest

“R. Huna said: Women who practise lewdness with one another are disqualified from marrying a priest.” – 1962  Soncino Baylonian Talmud, Yabamoth 76a


Rabbi Does Not Allow  His Daughters To Sleep In The Same 
Bed To Avoid Lesbianism

“He did not permit them to sleep together’. Shall we say that this supports R. Huna? For R. Huna said: Women that commit lewdness with one another are unfit for the priesthood. [30]- 1962  Babylonian Talmud, Shabbath 65a

FOOTNOTE 30:  Sc. to marry a High Priest, who must marry none but a virgin (Lev. XXI, 13), for their lewdness destroys their virginity. Though there were no High Priests in his days, he nevertheless objected to this on grounds of decency, and therefore may have taken steps to prevent it. — V. Weiss, Dor, I , 23.


Sexism in the Talmud



The Talmud is very complicated, not every statement is a law, sometimes it is a commentary or the opinion of a certain Rabbi, sometimes a stipulation or refutation, however the quotes below should give you a good idea about Talmudic reasoning on certain issues.

The Talmud describes women as a "piece of meat" whom can be taken by her husband as she pleases.  Also, unlike a man, a women who is only accused of adultery may be stripped to the waist in public to humiliate her and she is forced to drink a cup of poison to prove her innocence, if she lives she is pure, if she dies she is guilty of sin. 


Women are like a piece of meat, husbands may take them as they please

“R. Johanan said: The above is the view of R. Johanan b. Dahabai; but our Sages said: The halachah is not as R. Johanan b. Dahabai, but a man may do whatever he pleases with his wife [at intercourse]: A parable; Meat which comes from the abattoir, may be eaten salted, roasted, cooked or seethed; so with fish from the fishmonger. [4]” - 1962 Soncino BablyonianTalmud, Nadarim 20b

FOOTNOTE 4: [This parable serves to express the absence of reserve that may characterise the mutual and intimate relationship of husband and wife without offending the laws of chastity.]


As women only accused of adultery by her husband (without evidence) is striped to the waist in public, dressed in black and her jewelry removed to make her repulsive

MISHNAH. … IF SHE SAYS, 'I AM PURE', THEY BRING HER UP TO THE EAST GATE WHICH IS BY THE ENTRANCE OF NICANOR'S GATE WHERE THEY GIVE SUSPECTED WOMEN WATER TO DRINK, PURIFY WOMEN AFTER CHILDBIRTH, AND PURIFY LEPERS. A PRIEST SEIZES HER GARMENTS — IF THEY ARE RENT THEY ARE RENT, AND IF THEY BECOME UNSTITCHED THEY ARE UNSTITCHED UNTIL HE UNCOVERS HER BOSOM, AND HE UNDOES HER HAIR. R. JUDAH SAYS: IF HER BOSOM WAS BEAUTIFUL HE DOES NOT UNCOVER IT, AND IF HER HAIR WAS BEAUTIFUL HE DOES NOT UNDO IT. — IF SHE WAS CLOTHED IN WHITE, HE CLOTHES HER IN BLACK. IF SHE WORE GOLDEN ORNAMENTS AND NECKLACES, EAR-RINGS AND FINGER-RINGS, THEY REMOVE THEM FROM HER IN ORDER TO MAKE HER REPULSIVE. AFTER THAT [THE PRIEST] TAKES A COMMON ROPE AND BINDS IT OVER HER BREASTS. WHOEVER WISHES TO LOOK UPON HER COMES TO LOOK WITH THE EXCEPTION OF HER MALE AND FEMALE SLAVES, BECAUSE HER HEART IS MADE DEFIANT THROUGH THEM. ALL WOMEN ARE PERMITTED TO LOOK UPON HER, AS IT IS SAID, THAT ALL WOMEN MAY BE TAUGHT NOT TO DO AFTER YOUR LEWDNESS. -Soncino 1961 Babylonian Talmud, Sotah 7a-7b 


Woman accused of adultery is forced to drink a cup of "bitter water" (poison), if she is innocent she will survive, if she is guilty she will die from the poison 

MISHNAH. WHEN HE COMES TO WRITE THE SCROLL, FROM WHAT PLACE DOES HE WRITE? FROM IF NO MAN HAVE LAIN WITH THEE1 … BUT IF THOU HAST GONE ASIDE, BEING UNDER THY HUSBAND ETC.2 HE DOES NOT, HOWEVER, INCLUDE, THEN THE PRIEST SHALL CAUSE THE WOMAN TO SWEAR,3 BUT CONTINUES WITH, THE LORD MAKE THEE A CURSE AND AN OATH … AND THIS WATER THAT CAUSETH THE CURSE SHALL GO INTO THY BOWELS AND MAKE THY BELLY TO SWELL, AND THY THIGH TO FALL AWAY.4 HE DOES NOT, HOWEVER, INCLUDE, AND THE WOMAN SHALL SAY, AMEN, AMEN. R. JOSE SAYS, HE MAKES NO OMISSIONS.5 R. JUDAH SAYS, HE WRITES NONE OF ALL THIS EXCEPT, THE LORD MAKE THEE A CURSE AND AN OATH ETC. AND THIS WATER THAT CAUSETH THE CURSE SHALL GO INTO THY BOWELS ETC. AND DOES NOT INCLUDE, AND THE WOMAN SHALL SAY, AMEN, AMEN. - 1961 Soncino Babylonian Talmud, Sotah 17a

and if she be not innocent, she reverts to dust.21

FOOTNOTE 21. Dies from the effect of the water.