Saturday, August 11, 2018

Christians under Noahide Law




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*Note, some scholars reject the idea that the Talmud speaks of Jesus at all, if you are of this school of thought please see below where Maimonides states that Christianity is idolatry*

When many Christians learn about Noahide Law and the Talmud, they wrongly believe that the injunctions against “heathens” and "idolaters" do not apply to them.  Because of their lack of knowledge, many Christian feel they have nothing to worry about under Jewish Noahide Law in America since it will not be them who will be beheaded, but “heathens”, “pagans” and “idolaters”.  Little do Christians know that according to Jewish opinion it could worse to be Christian than being a “heathen” since Christians are considered “heretics” and “apostates”.  Indeed, according to the Talmud, becoming Christian is one of the worst sins one can commit, and Jesus himself is harshly admonished for being a sorcerer, blasphemer and a whore monger. Further, the reputable Jewish legal scholar Maimonides also made it 100% clear that Christianity is idolatry (for those who reject that the Talmud mentions Jesus). 
Minim
According to the 1962 Soncino Jewish Talmud Glossary, Christians are classified under a special level of sin called “Minuth”.  Christians are seen as “heretics” who believe in “plural powers”. According to the Talmud, to practice “minim” or “minuth” is worse than practicing incest, a transgression which would lead to decapitation under Noahide Law. Even being accused of being a Christian (apostate) would bring great shame upon any Jew.  Further, according to the Talmud, those who practice “Minuth” will go to hell. With such language against Christians, there is little doubt they will feel the full effect of Noahide Law upon their community. Scroll down to see more on Jesus below.

– Christianity is called Minuth
MINUTH: Heresy, the belief in more than one Power, especially Judeo-Christianity. - Babylonian Talmud, Glossary, Soncino 1961 Edition
MINUTH: Term used in the Talmud and Midrash for a Jewish heretic or sectarian... It is variously used in the Talmud and the Midrash for the Samaritan, the Sadducee, the Gnostic, the Judæo-Christian, and other sectaries, according to the epoch to which the passage belongs... In passages referring to the Christian period, "minim" usually indicates the Judæo-Christians, the Gnostics, and the Nazarenes, who often conversed with the Rabbis on the unity of God, creation, resurrection, and similar subjects (comp. Sanh. 39b). In some passages, indeed, it is used even for "Christian" - Minim, 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia
– Minuth (Christians) cry from hell
The horse-leech hath two daughters: Give, give.18 What is meant by 'Give, give'? Said Mar 'Ukba: It is the voice of the two daughters who cry from Gehenna calling to this world: Bring, bring! And who are they? Minuth19 and the Government.20 Some report: Said R. Hisda in the name of Mar 'Ukba: It is thevoice of Hell crying and calling: Bring me the two daughters who cry and call in this world, 'Bring, bring.' - Babylonian Talmud, Abodah Zarah 17a, Soncino 1961 Edition
– Minuth (Christianity) is graver than incest
Scripture says, None that go unto her return neither do they attain the paths of life.21 But if they do not return, how can they attain [the paths of life]? — What it means is that even if they do turn away from it they will not attain the paths of life.'22 Does it mean then that those who repent from minuth die? Was there not that woman who came before R. Hisda confessing to him that the lightest sin that she committed was that her younger son is the issue of her older son? Whereupon R. Hisda said: Get busy in preparing her shrouds — but she did not die. Now, since she refers to her [immoral] act as the lightest sin, it may be assumed that she had also adopted minuth[and yet she did not die]! — That one did not altogether renounce her evil-doing, that is why she did not die.
– A Rabbis is ashamed to be accused of Christianity, apostasy
Our Rabbis taught:17 When R. Eliezer18 was arrested because of Minuth19 they brought him up to the tribune to be judged. Said the governor20 to him, 'How can a sage man like you occupy himself with those idle things?' He replied, 'I acknowledge the Judge as right.' The governor thought that he referred to him — though he really referred to his Father in Heaven — and said, 'Because thou hast acknowledged me as right, I pardon;21 thou art acquitted.' When he came home, his disciples called on him to console him, but he would accept no consolation.22 Said R. Akiba to him, 'Master, wilt thou permit me to say one thing of what thou hast taught me?' He replied, 'Say it.' 'Master,' said he, 'perhaps some of the teaching of the Minim had been transmitted to thee - The Babylonian Talmud,Abodah Zarah 16b, Soncino 1961 Edition 
FOOTNOTES: 17. The following incident is recorded with considerable variations in Eccl. Rab. I, 8.
18. For the historical significance of this story, v. Klausner's Jesus of Nazareth, p. 37ff and references there given; also T. Herford's, op. cit. p. 143 and note.
19. [H] (abstract noun of [H] — Min, v. supra, p. 14, n. 2) 'heresy', with special reference to Christianity. [During the Roman persecution of Christians in Palestine in the year 109 under Trajan (Herford, loc. cit.) R. Eliezer b. Hyrcanus was arrested on suspicion of following that sect.]
20. [G].
21. [H], dimissus.
22. He was sorely grieved to have been at all suspected of apostacy.

Jesus was a sorcerer, corrupter and blasphemer 
As if classifying Christians as “heretics” and “apostates” worthy of hell was not enough, according to Judaism, Jesus himself was a sorcerer and whore monger who corrupted Israel and blasphemed on the cross.  According to the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia, Jesus is often called “Balaam” in the Talmud (Balaam was a notorious sorcerer).  When we reference the source where Balaam is said to be Jesus (Sanhedrin 106a-b) we find that he is accused of being a pimp who left the Torah of Moses. He is later accused of being the son of a harlot, his mother Mary. Finally, Jesus is accused of sorcery and blasphemy, both of which are punishable by death under Noahide Law.
– Jesus is called “Balaam”
Henceforth he became the type of false prophets seducing men to lewdness and obscene idolatrous practises (Rev. ii. 14; II Peter ii. 15; Jude 11; Abot v.19). The name "Nicolaitanes," given to the Christian heretics "holding the doctrine of Balaam" (Rev. ii. 6, 15), is probably derived from the Grecized form of Balaam, = Nικο-γάος, and hence also the pseudonym "Balaam," given to Jesus in Sanh. 106b and Giṭ. 57a. See Geiger, "Bileam and Jesus," in "Wissenschaftliche Zeitschrift für Jüdische Theologie," vi. 31-37). - Balaam, 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia
– Jesus (Balaam) a pimp who left the Torah of Moses
And now, behold I go unto my people; come, therefore, and I will advertise thee what this people shall do to thy people in the latter days.17 But he should have said, What thy people shall do to this people?18 — R. Abba b. Kahana said: It is as one who, cursing himself, refers his malediction to others.19 He [Balaam] said thus to him [Balak]. 'The God of these hates lewdness, and they are very partial to linen.20 Come, and I will advise thee. Erect for them tents enclosed by hangings, in which place harlots, old women without, young women within, to sell them linen garments.' So he erected curtained tents from the snowy mountain [Hermon] as far as Beth ha-Yeshimoth [i.e., right from north to south], and placed harlots in them — old women without, young women within. And when an Israelite ate, drank, and was merry, and issued forth for a stroll in the market place, the old woman would say to him, 'Dost thou not desire linen garments?' The old woman offered it at its current value, but the young one for less. This happened two or three times. After that she would say to him, 'Thou art now like one of the family; sit down and choose for thyself.' Gourds of Ammonite wine lay near her, and at that time Ammonite21 and heathen wine had not yet been forbidden. Said she to him, 'Wouldst thou like to drink a glass of wine?' Having drunk, [his passion] was inflamed, and he exclaimed to her, 'Yield to me!' Thereupon she brought forth an idol from her bosom and said to him, 'Worship this'! 'But I am a Jew', he protested. 'What does that concern thee?' she rejoined, 'Nothing is required but that thou should uncover thyself' — whilst he did not know that such was its worship. 'Nay', [said she,] 'I will not leave thee ere thou hast denied the Torah of Moses thy teacher,' as it is written, They went into Baal-peor, and separated themselves unto that shame, and their abominations were according as they loved.22 - The Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 106a, Soncino 1961 Edition
– Jesus (aka Balaam) was the son of a harlot 
Balaam also the son of Beor, the soothsayer, [did the children of Israel slay with the sword].40 A soothsayer? But he was a prophet! — R. Johanan said: At first he was a prophet, but subsequently a soothsayer.41 R. Papa observed: This is what men say, 'She who was the descendant of princes and governors, played the harlot with carpenters.'42
FOOTNOTE 42: 'Shipdraggers,' (v. Rashi). Herford, Christianity in the Talmud, p. 48, suggests that Balaam is frequently used in the Talmud as a type for Jesus (v. also pp. 64-70). Though no name is mentioned to shew which woman is meant, the mother of Jesus may be alluded to, which theory is strengthened by the statement that she mated with a carpenter. (The Munich MS. has [H] in the margin instead of [H], i.e., singular instead of plural.) - The Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 106a, Soncino 1961 Edition
-Jesus was a sorcerer who lead Israel to apostasy
AND A HERALD PRECEDES HIM etc. This implies, only immediately before [the execution], but not previous thereto.33 [In contradiction to this] it was taught: On the eve of the Passover Yeshu34 was hanged. For forty days before the execution took place, a herald went forth and cried, 'He is going forth to be stoned because he has practised sorcery and enticed Israel to apostacy. Any one who can say anything in his favour, let him come forward and plead on his behalf.' But since nothing was brought forward in his favour he was hanged on the eve of the Passover!35 — Ulla retorted: 'Do you suppose that he was one for whom a defence could be made? Was he not a Mesith [enticer], concerning whom Scripture says, Neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him?36 With Yeshu however it was different, for he was connected with the government [or royalty, i.e., influential].' - Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 43a, Soncino 1961 Edition 
FOOTNOTES:
34. [Ms.M. adds the Nasarean'.] 35. [A Florentine Ms. adds: and the eve of Sabbath.]
– Jesus blasphemed god when he was hung
Whatever had been Jesus' anticipations, he bore the terrible tortures, due to the strain and cramping of the internal organs, with equanimity till almost the last, when he uttered the despairing and pathetic cry "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?" (the Aramaic form of Ps. xxii. 1, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"), which showed that even his resolute spirit had been daunted by the ordeal. This last utterance was in all its implications itself a disproof of the exaggerated claims made for him after his death by his disciples. The very form of his punishment would disprove those claims in Jewish eyes. No Messiah that Jews could recognize could suffer such a death; for "He that is hanged is accursed of God" (Deut. xxi. 23), "an insult to God" (Targum, Rashi). How far in his own mind Jesus substituted another conception of the Messiah, and how far he regarded himself as fulfilling that ideal, still remain among the most obscure of historical problems (see Messiah). - Jesus, 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia
Maimonides said Christianity is idolatry  

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Is Christianity considered Avoda Zarah?
Posted 25 December 2017
By Rabbi Yaakov Goldstein
Under Daily Halacha

Is Christianity considered Avoda Zarah?

Christianity is considered Avoda Zara for a Jew, and carries all Avoda Zara related prohibitions.[1] However, some Poskim[2] rule that for gentiles, Christianity is considered Shituf and is not prohibited due to Avoda Zara.[3] Other Poskim[4] however rule that Christianity is considered like idolatry even for gentiles.

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[1] Rambam Machalos Assuros 11:7; Avoda Zara 9:4; Pirush Hamishnayos Avoda Zara 1:3; Teshuvas Harambam 448; Rama Y.D. 148:12 [in uncensored editions] lists Xmas and New Years as Holidays of idolatry; Likkutei Sichos 37 p. 198; Rebbe in handwritten editing remarks to a letter “Christianity is Avoda Zara, is in contrast to the seven Nohadite laws, as opposed to Islam. However, the Christians of today are simply “Maaseh Avoseihem Beyadeihem”.

The reason: As they believe that Yoshka is one of the three parts of Hashem and they worship him. [In truth however, there are different sects of Christianity with different belief systems. See Haemuna Vehadeios of Rasag 2:7 that there are four groups of Christians and not all are idol worshipers; See here https://www.thoughtco.com/faith-groups-that-reject-trinity-doctrine-700367]

[2] Rama O.C. 156:1 [Omitted in Admur 156]; Darkei Moshe O.C. 156; Y.D. 151; Shach Y.D 151:7; Tosafus Sanhedrin 63b and Bechoros 2b; Ran Sanhedrin 63b, end of first Perek in Avoda Zara; Meiri Bava Kama 113b; Rabbeinu Yerucham Nesiv 17:5; Beir Hagoleh C. M. 425 Shin; Aruch Hashulchan 156:4; Reb Yeshaya Berlin, brought in Mishnas Chachomim Yesodei Hatorah Lav Alef and Pischeiy Teshuvah 147:2; See Sefer Hamamarim Rebbe Maharash 5637 “Mi Kamocha”; Melukat 1 p. 323 Mamar Mayim Rabim 5717; Melukat 3 Nissan p. 128 Mamar “Beyom Ashtei Asar” 5731; Toras Menachem 5743 3 p. 1386; See Pischeiy Teshuvah Y.D. 157:2 that so is clearly implied from Rama ibid; See Sdei Chemed Peas Hasadeh Kelalim 3:6

[3] The reason: The definition of Nohadite idolatry according to this opinion: According to this opinion, the form of idolatry prohibited for Nohadites is the belief that Hashem has completely left the earth, and plays no role in it. That it has been left completely to the authority of a deity to whom they pray and worship. In other words, they believe in G-d’s existence, but simply call him “Eloka Dielokaya/The G-d of G-d’s/.” This is prohibited for even a gentile to believe, and he must believe that G-d has direct influence on the world. It goes without saying that denial of G-d’s existence at all, and believe in a foreign deity, is defined as idolatry. However, Shituf, which is permitted for a gentile according to this opinion, believes Hashem interacts with the world, although has given authority to other deities or powers to also have some control in the world, and He is thus not the sole ruler. While Jews are prohibited from believing this due to idolatry, gentiles are not. [See Sefer Hamamarim Melukat 1:323, Mamar Mayim Rabim 5717 Melukat 3 ibid footnote 20]

[4] Noda Beyehuda Tinyana Y.D. 148 [Says that Shituf is Avoda Zara even for gentiles, and the Rama and Ran never intended to say that Shituf is permitted for them, and thus the common statement of people that based on the Rama there is no Issur of Shituf for gentiles, is incorrect; However, see Pischeiy Teshuvah ibid that in truth one must say the Rama holds Shituf is permitted for gentiles, as the Rama Y.D. 151:1 permits selling them items, as explains Shach 151:7]; Mahara Sasson; Vishev Hakohen 38; Meil Tzedaka 22; Shaar Efraim 24; P”M 156; Y.D. 65 S”D end of chapter that is nevertheless Rabbinically prohibited; Binyan Tziyon 1:16; Mishnas Chachomim Yesodei Hatorah Lav Alef; Pischeiy Teshuvah Y.D. 147:2 [concludes that Shituf is forbidden also for gentiles]; Rebbe in handwritten editing remarks to a letter “Christianity is Avoda Zara, is in contrast to the seven Nohadite laws, as opposed to Islam. However, the Christians of today are simply “Maaseh Avoseihem Beyadeihem”.


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Rabbi Yaakov Goldstein
Rabbi Yaakov Goldstein is a noted college instructor in Judaic studies, which he teaches to several hundred students from all spectrums of Jewry. He is also the director of Shulchanaruchharav.com, the world’s leading web-based Halacha database, and is the director of the Home Study Semicha Program. Rabbi Goldstein received Semicha from Rabbi Schneur Zalman Labkowski of the Tomchei Temimim headquarters in 2005 and served as a chaplain in the Lotar/Kalatz and K9 units of the IDF from the years 2005-2008. There, he dealt with various Halachic issues relating to soldiers in his unit. Since then he has become a certified Shochet, and teaches classes in Halacha and Chassidus in the Jerusalem area. Rabbi Goldstein currently lives with his wife Shayna and nine children in Safed, Israel, where he serves through his classes to spread the knowledge of Nigleh and Chassidus to the public.

1 comment:

  1. Boy are those SYNAGOGUE of Satan "fake jews" in for a surprise!! God is going to make them bow down to Christians and know that God loves ( and has chosen ) Christians above them.

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